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Christian Talk - Will God Forgive A Woman Who Had An Abortion? Can She Go To Heaven?

Christian Talk - Will God Forgive A Woman Who Had An Abortion? Can She Go To Heaven?

Christian Talk - Will God Forgive A Woman Who Had An Abortion? Can She Go To Heaven?
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Christian Talk - Will God Forgive A Woman Who Had An Abortion? Can She Go To Heaven?

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Transcript

Welcome to Christian talk with Eric Thompson, a thoughtful podcast helping Christians navigate life. I'LL PODCAST for Christ. I bring faith, family political issues, using God's word, the Bible. The victory is ours that are light shine before others so they may glorify our father in heaven. Welcome to Christian talk with Eric Thompson. Hi, welcome to another Christian talk podcast. Thank you so much for joining me. My name is our Tom saw here in California, I'm doing a special Saturday podcast to address an issue that I think has to be a has to be discussed here on this series of podcast if you want to get a hold of me, our website is Christian talk dot life. Christian talk dot life. You can put out the contact form if you want me to address certain issues or if you have questions. Download some of the other podcast and check out some of the articles that I've written. On today's podcast we're going to go over can, God does, God, will God forgive women that have had their babies aborted. I've seen both sides of this issue over the years. I've seen people that are the hyperfeminist, the far left, people that have actually turned the subject into a political hot potato and and it's like I'm celebrating, I'm going I just got back from doing my tent abortion. I'm like wow, and then you get over to people that are Christians, some that think to Christians and they're not, that have taken the position that this subject is the unpardonable sin, that if this happens, then you're out of the book, you're done toast, no chance. So we're going to do it balanced Biblical journey through the concept of who creates in the womb, what happens when people sin and what happens when we are cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. If you think that someone, that a woman that has an abortion, is done, then you probably want to go read the rest of the Bible. I am one hundred in million percent pro life. The fact that we're even having this discussion and that sixty million babies plus have been aborted is horrific to me. But if you're listening or if you know someone that's had an abortion, then we're going to see what God has to say and how, because all of our walks you may be listening and you be like this is unbelievable that somebody would do this. But yet you're looking at porn or you're in multilevel programs up to Kazoo and you're running your family into bankruptcy or whatever. So I am not emotionally going to get in this. I'm going to give you how God deals with people that sin, because in the end we're all individually walking in the Lord. If he choose this to save you to election, then he's has it's the Bible says before everything was laid out, before the creation of what we see the good works that God would have his believers do or laid out in advance. So what the devil would want is for people to get caught up on particular issues because he goes around the demonic world is functioning around us, trying to like it says that Satan Roars in the spirit world to paralyze Christians, to put people in fear, to keep him in fear, and that in the demons are for a nonbelievers, are going in and out because they can possess people and that's why there's so many suicides and depression. But I want you to know I if you're listening and you're someone that's been worried about this question. When we're all done, God forgives sense. In God is the one that ministers justice and God is the one who we are all accountable to for our own individual sins. But there's a caveat when we finish because when we come to Christ, where a new creation, all things have passed away. And we'll get to the scripture. But Jesus, when he would approach or talk to people that were in sin, if he for if he forgave him, he would say, I forgive you, but now don't do it anymore. So that is something that there there is a there's a host forgiveness edict that goes into place from our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. So let's get started here. In Genesis one one it says in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. So God created everything. For John Once says it. All things were made through him, Jesus Christ, and without him nothing has been made that was made. I just did second Corinthians, five seventeen. Therefore, anyone that's in Christ, he is a new creation. The oldest passed away. Behold, the new has come. So the Bible says that in Genesis that God created man and woman. So animals, you got all the trees, you got all the vegetation, you got everything. And then God says, you know, then God created man out of the dust and called him Adam. And then after that he says, well, he needs to help her suitable, he needs someone. In Genesis one hundred and twenty seven. So God created man in his image, in the image of God. He created him male and female. He created them. So God created everything. In God created man from dust, from conception, according to the Bible, says in Jeremiah one, four through five. Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying before I formed you in the womb, I knew you, and before you were born, I consecrated you. I appointed you a prophet to the nation's Psalm twenty two, nine through ten. Yet you are he who took me from the womb. You made me trust you at my mother's breast. On you I was cast from my birth and from my mother's womb. You have been my God. Psalm Fif five. Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me. So what's happening is God creates everything and in the womb God assembles us. So the fact that mankind has devised ways to go into that environment and to usurp, interrupt and to destroy what God is creating creates a problem. You. You have to see that there's a problem with that. If you believe in fear God, the Pagans would do things where they would take the new born baby out and then immediately sacrifice. So I'm just saying that that the fact is, at this point going through the we're going through the Bible, not emotionally, because we need to see how God deals with these things. Because in genesis nine five, it says that for your life blood, I will require a reckoning from every beat so required. Whoever sheds the blood of Man by man shall his blood be shed, for God made them in his own image. But here's here's will. We have to understand King David, who later on in his life was was called a man after God's heart. So I want, I want to encourage all of us that that God is long suffering and God is love and God is able, through his own plan of redemption, the cross, to forgive, because we can't enter into God's presence eternally as sinners. So we go to second Samuel Levin King David is the man. Okay, if you don't know the story, we're going to go through it. I don't want to go out and make this too long for you, but try to picture this. Dave, said, was a young the youngest of boys of jethrow in. God called him to be the king and he was chased by a Saul, the current king, chaste and threatened and spear stone at him on. I mean just was lucky didn't be alive. If it wasn't, you probably only made it through his younger years because not probably he did make it through his younger years because of God's sovereignty. So David is the king over Israel and it says in Chapter Eleven, verse one it's a springtime when the kings would go off to war. So this is when David would go out as the king with his army to fight. But David instead he sent his general out, joe Ab out, what the Kings men's and the whole Israelite Army. So he stayed, but stayed behind and they went destroyed. The ammonites besiege. ROBOB and David stayed in Jerusalem. One Evening David got up out of his bed. He's walking around the roof and he sees a woman bathing. She's very beautiful. Okay, so this is a this is a guy who had walked with God, called by God, walked with God, anointed by God, blessed by God. And David has the moment where he shouldn't be there because he should be out the war. So he sees, because he's up way above the other homes and the women are bathing on top their homes. Should be safe. David sends someone's to go to her house. So he brings her name Bathsheba, the daughter helium and the wife of you Riyah, the hit tight that he was, who was out fighting for David in war. David went and slept with her and she sit and she went back home and she had conceived and send a word to David saying I'm pregnant. So David, so what? So what should what should David do at this point? Well, what happens when sinners decide they want to run from God instead of go to God? Devit? David sends a word to his general, Joe Abben, says send they you send your Riah home. So David sent him home and you Riah came home and Dave, I'll paraphrases, David, got him drunk. He said Hey, man, go home and sleep with your wife, Ryot. He said, well, I can't. I how can I do that when everybody is out battling? You said go home, but in the morning David gets reports that you riah didn't. He slept on his doorstep. He would not go in to the house. To David's like, HMM, well, stay one more day. So David got him drunk again. But you Riah went and sleepping on a mat amongst his serve as masters servants and did not go home. So David's got a problem here. Think about how wicked this is. David said, you know what, I guess we're going to have to do it the hard way. Here's a note with my seal on it. You can't eat obviously you can't read it. He didn't say that, but it was implied. You don't read it. If there's a seal on it, you go give it to Joe AB when you get there. So he goes back into battle because his wife is pregnant. But David, but but her husband doesn't know it. And I'll sudden he sent away, but then when David gives it, when Joe AB gets it, when you, Riah, gives it to him, it said in verse fourteen the morning David wrote a letter to Joe AB and sent it with you, Riah, and it said put your Riah out in front where the fighting is a feer sistant. I want you to withdraw so he'll get killed. And Joe Ab did it and David got a message. Okay, done, he's dead. Do when you RIA's wife heard her husband was dead, she more informed and after the time of morning, David brought her to his house and she became his wife and bore a son. But the thing David had displease the Lord. So what happens in the story? Nathan, David thought he got away with it because everybody thought, all, you're such a good king, you married the widow of your your military leader that died. And but Nathan said, let me tell you a story. A man had a lot of sheep and a man had one sheep, and the guy with a lot of sheep said, I have someone coming to visit. He took the one sheep from the family who they loved that sheep and slept with that and was their pet. He could have had gone on got any of all of the other sheep and he took this guy's one sheep and killed it. And David said to Nathan that man will die, and Nathan the Prophet said you're the man and David repented. But what happened is the Lord took that baby home to heaven. So it was born and then it died and David wept. But was interesting is when David wouldn't eat and he was in mourning while the child was alive. But after the child had died he cleaned himself up and they said why are you now back to living? He said because I I he's not going to come where I am, but I I will eventually go to where he is. And he went back to living. So when you get over to kings first, kings fifteen, four through seven, it says nevertheless, for David's sake, the Lord, his God, gave him a lamp in Jerusalem by raising up a son who succeeded him by making him, making drews im strong, for David had done what was right in the eyes of the Lord and had not failed to keep any of the Lord's Commandments. All the days of his life, except in the case of you, Riyah. So God restored blessed for gave a guy who committed adultery, stold a guy's wife, coveted as wife, stold her, killed him for her, lied to everybody and God restored him. David wrote Psalms about this, by the way. So now here's David when he's out after he's running from Saul. He's out there and he wrote in Psalm thirty two, blessed is the one whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed of the One whose sin the Lord Does Not Count against them and whose spirit is no deceit. And it goes on. He also wrote in Psalm fifty one when the Prophet Nathan actually had come to David. This is before this is the so this one would have been before the other one, but he said, look, have mercy on me, God, according to your unfailing love, according to your great compassion, blot out my transgressions, wash away all my iniquity and cleanse me from my sin, for I know my transgressions and my sin, as always before me, against you you only have I sinned and done evil, done what is evil in your sight, for you are right in your verdict. And just when you judge. Surely I was sinful of birth, sinful from the time, and mother can side me. Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb. You taught me wisdom in the secret place. So David, calling out to God, repent and repented, asking for forgiveness, for God's unfailing love to restore him. How blessed it is the person who God does not count their sins against him. Some people would say David should have never been forgiven for what he did. Let's go to John e one eleven Jesus went to the Mount of Olives and at dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him and he set down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. That's capital punishment in the Jewish culture at the time. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, teacher, in other words, rabbi, you know the law, when you're saying they were supposed to honor God and keep the law, this woman was caught in the act of adultery in the law. Moses commanded us to Stoner Ston't such a woman. What do you say? They were using this question a as a trap in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with this finger. When they kept questioning him, he straightened up. Instead of them. Let any of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her. And again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left with the woman standing there. In Jesus straightened up and asked her, woman, where are they? Has No one condemned you? No one, sir, she said, says Verse Eleven. Neither do I. Because she had come to faith, she believed. She was a scared. She was in her heart, knowing that only only Jesus could savor he declared, okay, go now and sin no more. When when a woman in in her life who has been given the blessing of a child, even though the circumstances of how it happened could be really bad and a human sense to really beautiful, if, if she threw whatever emotional distress or reasoning sins by boarding the baby, she she is in a position as a sinner at war with God, just like somebody would be at somebody who is an adulter or all the time, who won't stop, or lying all the time or drunk all the time. Because it says in Roman street twenty three that all of sinned in fallen short of the glory of God. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is Eternal Life through Christ Jesus, Our Lord, Roman twenty three. So we all sin. Because of that, we are destined for hell. All of us do. Only sin in the Bible. That is unforgivable according to the Bible, not according to what we think. Is If you blaspheming the Holy Spirit, which is this God, I consciously, knowingly don't want you. I reject the Holy Spirit, I reject salvation, I reject your consciousness and I reject it all. I I will never ever want to have a relationship with you past the point of creature creator. If you get to that point and you have, you have confirmed your non election, you are going to hell. If you have a boarded a baby or if you are an adulter, or if you are homosexual, whatever it is, according to the Bible, not emotional here, and you choose not to hear the still small voice calling you, if you choose not to believe in the Gospel, which is that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, allowed himself to go through in a legal trial, was put on a cross with criminals, even though had never sinned. On the Cross, which was predetermined before the foundations of the Earth would happen. Jesus was on the Cross and he absorbed all every sin that would ever be committed by those that would be saved. He took the sin upon himself as a son of God. When he was done and it completed his work, he said it is finished. He died. The veil was torn in half, this big thick veil which separated the people from God. The Earth shook, darkness and everything. They buried him. He went down into the lower parts of the of the world. You set the captives free, and then he rose on the third day. According to the Scriptures, was seen by up to five hundred disciples at one time and he sits at the right hand of the father, interceding for us. If you believe that Jesus Christ took your sins on a cross and the Holy Spirit is confirming to the to you that, and you believe by faith, then you are what the Jewish people would say the culture. You've been born from above. The spirit of God has now taken residence in you, and now you will start to hate sin and love God more so, even if if you've perpetually hurt people, violent, criminal, aboarded your babies, baby, your babies, the cross took care of all the sin for those who would believe, not for people that just want to not be guilty. So, just like the woman caught an adultery, if you've aboarded your baby, Sir Baby, then we have to understand. Like it says in First Peter to twenty four, and he himself, Jesus, brought our sins in his body upon the cross so that we might die to sin and live in righteousness, for by his wounds we were healed. First Petere Eighteen, for Christ also suffer once for all time, the just for the unjust, so that he might bring us to God. Having having put to death in the flesh, putting death the flesh, but made alive in the spirit. So want you, if you are called by God, if you have repented of your sins, if you have been born from above and, like Paul said in Phippians three hundred and thirteen. Now, Paul was a murderer. Paul would get warrants to go out and kill Christians for simply being Christians, separate families and have people killed. He had Steven Stone to death, the first, first martyr. But through grace, through God's love, he said. You know what, Philippians, this is one thing I do. I forget the things that are behind me, the murders, the the the hatred. I forget the things that are behind me and I press on toward the higher calling in Christ Jesus, my Lord. First Peter Three nine. The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some council lowness, but patient towards us, not willing to any should perish but all should come to repentance. In the parable of the lost sheep, a man, a man had a hundred sheep and he lost one and he went and he looked and looked and looked and he found the sheep. He told him I found my sheep, not like well, great, you had ninety nine more, but great friends. And they rejoice with him, though, because they loved him, he they were friends. Jesus said. I tell you that, in the same way, this rejoicing over a lost sheep or a lost person, they'll be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety nine righteous people who have no need. So let's finish here. If you've aborted a baby and you've repented and your child of God and you've been born from above and you, you are, you, your desire is to please your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and never to do never to sin intentionally again, knowing that God is the one that created everything, God is the one that knits us together in our mother's womb and has plans for us. The heart should be not to do it again. Some people that are pseudo Christians, Romans six Paul, had to deal with this. What should we say then? Shall we go on sinning so that God's grace can be more on display, you know, shall we keep doing what we've been doing so people can see how gracious God is, because we he keeps for giving us, and Paul said no, by no means. We are those who have died to sin. How can we live in it any longer? Second Corinthians three, F team. This is where, I think, where you can really take your assessment. This is for all of us. Paul said, examine yourselves to see whether you're in the faith. Test Yourselves. Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you, unless, of course, you fail the test? And if you don't fail the test, in Christ is in you, then it is because of Jesus alone, not because we are good, that any of us are saved. Bevisians two, eight nine. Board is by grace that you have been saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves. It is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast about it. So first John One nine. If you have, if you not, if you're not a Christian, see God, because none of us, from a mother who aborted her baby to man who commits adultery, to someone that's practicing homosexual lifestyle, someone it's dead's violent, someone that's a perpetual liar. But IFESIANS one seven says, in him and Jesus we have redemption. Through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses according to the riches of His grace. And First John One night says, if we confess our sins, Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. And for those that are listening, if you know somebody that is had an abortion and they're struggling and they're Christian, now begians war thirty two. Be Kind to one another, tender hearted, forgiving one another as God in Christ forgave you. So yes, God is love. And so the question, the answer to our question when we started can for women that have abortions, are they going to hell? The answer is, in Christ born again, Jesus is Lord saved. Absolutely not by grace. We been saved by faith, not of our works. It's a gift of God from Adam and Eve till today, were we are one hundred percent all sinners. And I said when I started, abortion to me is shocking. But, Paul said, to all of us forgetting the things that are behind us, because God doesn't keep a record once you're a new creation of Christ, whatever you've done, abortion to murder, whatever in Christ once you're born again. God is for God chosen to forget it, but his instructions it's a don't sin anymore, because he wants us to not have any weights and shackles on us. He wants us to keep taking inventory, to keep confessing our sins, because he's Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us. And you need to be in prayer in God's word, because his word is living and powerful and sharper than any two edged sword. And I want encourage you and I will finish her. If you feel condemned, if you feel depressed, if you feel stressed out all the time, but you know, after taking inventory, that you do believe the Gospel, that you have accepted Jesus Christ as your savior, the condemnation, your feeling always comes from the demonic world. Conviction comes from God. Don't be depressed today, if you're in Christ, don't be stressed out. In Christ, greater is God that's in you, the Holy Spirit, then the demonic world that's in the world and other people. You have victory in Jesus Christ. We have a right. We have become children of God through faith and whatever we've done in our past. God is working all things out for good to those who are the called to us according to his purpose. God makes all things good in the end, he makes all things right. But if you choose, if you're listening to this and you've had abortions and you're telling me that I don't want to be I don't want to follow Jesus, I reject the Gospel. Been My the answer to the question we started with is, will God forgive woman that has abortions? Is this same question that will God forgive a man who's looking at pornography all the time, unrepentant, or someone who who has who stealing all the time? The answer to the question is you will go to hell, because God is just, God is holy, but God has given you grace. God has offered you the ability for salvation. It's a gift. You don't have to earn it. So if your mind is telling you I god can't forgive me, that's a lie from the pit of Hell to lie. God wants to make beauty out of ashes. God wants to take your life and and use it for beauty, use it for glory, use it for his purposes. He wants you to be a light. Want you to shine. And if, once you're shining, you say you know what, Satan, demonic world, my thoughts, my flesh, there's no condemnation in Romans one. There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. I encourage you to read eight Romans Eight. Eight one is what I was meant to say. So do me a favorite when you have time. Romans eight one rate. Read the whole chapter, because it's going to encourage you, motivate you, restore you. But the the start verse one. Therefore, once you've come to faith in you believe, there is now no condemnation, not some condemnation. Remember your our individual walk with God will. You are seeking love and approval from our Lord and Savior, not from the world. Christians it say that you're going to hell because you had an abortion, are biblically an error and may not be Christians, because it says in Romans a one the Holy Spirit writing. Have Working Through Paul, the apostle that said, yes, I was a murderer and I was really, really bad, but I can forget those things that are behind me because I, by grace, I've been saved. He said to the Romans Christians. Therefore, there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus, the law of the spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. So I appreciate you listening in. Please share this with any friends or family you think it'll it'll apply to but God does not, says over in Ezekiel. My wife had sent it to me a couple days ago. God doesn't take pleasure in the death of the wicked. God doesn't does take pleasure in sinful centners being judged. So let's live lives of victory regardless. Let's send no more let's not do what we say, let's not do what we've been asking for forgiveness for, because the Bible does say that if you say you love God but you continue doing the same sin the liar. You're a liar and the truth is not in you. So don't. We don't want to. We don't want to play with this. 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